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The Satanic Verses of Bhagavad-gita
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This work attempts to show that the message of the Bhagavad-gita – the sacred scripture of Hinduism – is inherently satanic, and that the Bhagavad-gita is "Hindu terrorism". The criticism largely progresses from the simplest, or the most basic one, to the profoundest, or philosophically the most advanced one. And, at the end, it summarises the satanic Gita – i.e. the satanic aspect of the Gita – in four verses. This work is meant to be nothing but an honest, academic attempt at bringing out a criticism of the Bhagavad-gita. And although, through this work, I have been highly critical of the Bhagavad-gita, I have pleasure admitting honestly that the Gita does appear to have a profound metaphysic and a spiritually motivating philosophy of life. In fact, it prominently shares similarities with my theories & philosophy, especially the UQV (Ultimate Questioner’s Vanity) theory.

 
The main satanic aspects of the Gita are described below:
 
The message of the Bhagavad-gita is inherently satanic. To begin with the simplest of criticism, in chapter 9: verse 32  of the Gita, Krishna says that even women, vaisyas [merchants], sudras [low-level workers], or any people of sinful birth go to the supreme abode, if they take his shelter. In 9:33, he says that then what to say about righteous brahmanas , devotees, and saintly kings! This means that women – alongside vaisyas, sudras, and people of sinful birth – are considered to be of lower birth/type than righteous brahmanas, devotes, and saintly kings, and that Krishna does not consider women to be in the category of “righteous brahmanas”. So women are either unrighteous brahmanas or not brahmanas at all. Now, 4:13 and 18:41 altogether mention that Krishna has created brahmanas, ksatriyas [warriors], vaisyas, and sudras as four divisions (of mankind). 18:47 & 18:48 collectively make it clear that the Gita asks everyone from a division to do work only assigned for their division. In 4:7 & 4:8, Krishna tells Arjuna that whenever religion declines and irreligion predominates, he – at that time – manifests himself. For deliverance of the pious and annihilation of miscreants, and for reestablishment of religion, he, i.e. Krishna himself, appears millennium after millennium. So, women who do the works of brahmanas – e.g. the work of a professional teacher – would, in any way,
 

Note: As mentioned previously, women, according to the Gita, are either unrighteous brahmanas or not brahmanas at all. If they are unrighteous brahmanas, they are unrighteous anyway, and if they are not brahmanas at all, the women who do the works of brahmanas – e.g. the work of a professional teacher – would be unrighteous.


be considered as unrighteous, irreligious, and miscreants by the Gita, and are, therefore, threatened to death. Even the Gita would think it religious to annihilate the irreligious – all of those whose beliefs and practices do not conform to the message of the Gita, which would include atheists, agnostics, free thinkers, other religious people like Christians, Muslims, Jews, etc.
 

Note: To conclude, to this point, “The Bhagavad-gita is Hindu terrorism, and Krishna is a terrorist.” (The Bhagavad-gita is Hindu terrorism. However, that does not necessarily mean that those who advocate or attempt to spread the Gita are terrorists, since they may not be aware of the terrorism entailed in it. Krishna is a terrorist though, for he is “supposed to be” (omniscient) God, and as such, through the Gita – his eternal message – he has directly (or indirectly) threatened the modern way of life, considering most of the modern people as miscreants, the ones to be annihilated.) 



Moreover, the message of the Gita is violent. In 2:31 to 2:38, 4:42, and 11:33 & 11:34, Arjuna is advised to fight the irreligious people with violent means. If Krishna himself is God
 

Note: In 10:3, Krishna claims himself to be the “Ultimate Lord”.


and almighty,
 

Note: Or, at least, highly powerful, as he claims himself to be at many places in the Gita, including 10:8, 10:39, and 9:10.

 
he must be able to induce the irreligious people to righteous thoughts and deeds with pacific means. Instead of doing so, he wishes bloodshed.
 

Note: In 11:32, Krishna mentions that he has come to this world to destroy all people (i.e. millions of people in the battlefield), except few. Only twelve warriors, including Krishna & Arjuna, survived the war.

 
In 4:8, Krishna claims that for annihilation of miscreants, he, himself, appears millennium after millennium. Krishna mentions “miscreants”, not “misdeeds”. Further, in 11:33 & 11:34, Krishna says that he has prearranged the deaths of Arjuna’s irreligious enemies. If deaths can be prearranged, almost anything – if not absolutely anything – can be prearranged,
 

Note: Considering the seeming role Krishna is supposed to have played in the (Kurukshetra) war – the role of Arjuna’s charioteer – and the claim that millions of soldiers died in the war, it is not difficult to see how much force and power Krishna has over nature and human affairs. And with such power in hand – the sort of which he anyway claims to have at many places in the Gita, and which is close to omnipotence, if not exactly omnipotence – it can be said that he can prearrange practically anything.

 
and if that is the case, why Krishna doesn’t prearrange all good in the first place? Doesn’t Krishna – the governing principle of the material manifestation, as he claims himself to be in 7:30 – do this for his own despicable enjoyment?
 

Note: In 9:30, Krishna tells Arjuna that even the worst miscreant is to be considered saintly if he is engaged in devotional service to him (i.e. Krishna). If Krishna were truly noble, he would say, “I like & admire those who are virtuous, even if they disregard Me.”, won’t he? Krishna seems to be far more concerned with “people loving him” than “ethics” or “morality”. In 10:3, Krishna says that anyone who knows him as the uncreated and as the ultimate Lord of all worlds is freed from every sin. Krishna seems to be an “egomaniac”, doesn’t he?

 
If he were really good and noble, he would only create numerous pleasant (mental) states of self-realisation – the thing that he hails throughout the Gita, including 3:17 & 4:35 – and not any of suffering.
 

Note: In 9:23, Krishna says that he meets the requirements of and protects those who always worship him with absolute devotion. In 16:19, he says that he continuously puts the envious and the mischievous – the lowest of all men – into the sea of material existence, into a variety of demonic lives. In 16:20, he says that such people, by having repeated births into the demonic sort of life, can never achieve him. They end up into the most disgusting form of existence. In 10:10, Krishna says that the ones who are always devoted in serving him lovingly, he gives them real intelligence through which they can come to him. In 10:11, he says that as a matter of special mercy, he – residing in their hearts – dispels the darkness of ignorance with the lamp of knowledge. Why is Krishna – residing in everyone’s heart, as he claims in 15:15 – not merciful “enough” to everyone, to dispel their darkness of ignorance with real intelligence, so that they can come to him?
In 10:4 & 10:5, Krishna says that all different qualities of living entities – such as happiness as well as unhappiness, fear, delusion, failure, etc. – certainly come about from him.

 
Isn’t, therefore, Lord Krishna – being responsible for unfathomable violence and suffering – satanic?
 

Note: The core or the ultimate message of the Gita, like majority of other religious systems, appears to be this: Come to God, condemning the ephemeral, material world. The essence of that message is Karma-yoga, for everything is Karma, even Dhyana or Bhakti. [If one predominantly has qualities of a ksatriya, he should do the work prescribed for ksatriyas. But if one has, or has developed, qualities predominantly of a Sanyasi, he should be a Sanyasi – that should be his Karma: whatever he may then do as a Sanyasi. See 6:3, in which Krishna says that for a beginner-yogi, work is the means; and for an advanced-yogi, Sanyas – giving up all material activities – is the means.] In other words, all Yogas are actually Karma-yoga or the forms of Karma-yoga. 
Now, there are two ways of looking at Karma-yoga:  
1. A way of practicing detachment from the material world and coming to Krishna, with love. Thus, Karma-yoga is a loving, devotional service to Krishna.  
2. Krishna wants the material world to function properly, as he says in 3:23 & 3:24, for example. So, like Him, man too should perform his prescribed duties, as a loving, devotional service to Krishna.  
Whichever way we look at Karma-yoga, the essence of Karma-yoga, or in other words, the practical approach to Karma, remains the same – one’s Karma is supposed to be one’s loving, devotional service to Krishna. 
Now, a question is raised: Why does Krishna want the existence and functioning of the material world when it is – and as he himself says in 8:15 & 9:33 – full of misery and suffering? The answer to this would be either because Krishna enjoys watching earthly beings suffer or he has an immense vanity – conceit and desire for admiration of his personal attainments or attractions – to be quenched gradually. Anyway his enjoyment would be despicable, considering the cost paid by earthly living beings through there enormous suffering. The same “sort” of objection could be raised though against God in other religions, e.g. the Christian God, but the point here is that it can be raised against Krishna, and it diminishes the supposed moral greatness of the Gita. (In other words, Krishna attempts to sound like a good guy, but he wants the inherently miserable material world to function for no good reason.) 
If Krishna had let Arjuna and the Pandavas retire from the war and the Kauravas have the kingdom, may be there would have been a continual predominance of irreligion. However, millions of warriors died in the war, devastating a huge number of families and effectively letting irreligion predominate anyway (as also pointed out by Arjuna, from 1:37 to 1:43). Now, supposedly the Gita was sung and the war was fought to give mankind the message of the Gita (the science of yoga: see 4:1, 4:2, 4:3, 4:7, 4:8, & 11:32), but Krishna – through his immense powers – could surely have given his message to further generations in some other, far less violent, ways. And anyway, the message has clearly ever failed to produce the expected or desired impact on mankind. The war was thus not worth to be fought for delivering the message of the Gita.
Either “Krishna as God” is an absurd idea – and thus the Gita is the word of man, and not of God – or God is absurd, inconsistent, and largely & fundamentally “satanic”. I believe, the former is true, and God – in my viewpoint, as described in my UQV (Ultimate Questioner’s Vanity) theory (see http://works.bepress.com/kedar_joshi/3/) – is the ultimate (philosophical) questioner, who has created only one philosopher man, in the best – or, perhaps, a best – of all possible worlds with reference to the/a true philosopher. 
[Krishna wants man to be a karma-yogi. But is Krishna himself a karma-yogi? If man’s karma-yoga is his unconditional, absolute allegiance to Krishna, Krishna’s karma-yoga would be his unconditional, absolute allegiance to morality. Krishna clearly lacks such allegiance and therefore he is not a karma-yogi.]


 
Lastly, the Gita is full of contradictions,
 

Note: For example, in 3:22, Krishna says that though he wants nothing, he does his prescribed duties. In 3:24, Krishna – for giving reason he does his prescribed duties – says that if he does not do his prescribed duties all worlds will be ruined and he will be the cause of producing unwanted population, which, as a result, will wreck all living beings. So, Krishna does not “want” to wreck all living beings. Therefore, Krishna “wants” something, which is in contradiction with 3:22.


inconsistencies,
 

Note: In 9:29, Krishna says that he hates nobody and nobody is dear to him. In 12:17, he says that one who never rejoices, never hates, never grieves, never desires, and who gives up auspicious as well as inauspicious things – such devotee is dear to him. And similarly, he describes the types of persons dear to him, from 12:13 to 12:20.


absurdities,
 

Note: In 4:7, Krishna says that whenever religion declines and irreligion predominates, he – at that time – manifests himself. In 4:8, he says that for deliverance of the pious and annihilation of miscreants, and for reestablishment of religion, he, himself, appears millennium after millennium. Now, quite obviously there has been predominance of irreligion – irreligion according to the message of the Gita – for a very, very long time, and Krishna seems to have failed in delivering his promise


and flawed philosophies
 

Note: In 16:6, Krishna says that there are two types of created living entities in the world: divine and demonic. In 16:1, 16:2, & 16:3 – describing the qualities of the divine ones – he says that they – the divine ones – are marked by fearlessness, charity, self-control, study of the Vedas, non-violence, simplicity, cleanliness, politeness, modesty, compassion for all living beings, etc. In 16:8 – describing the qualities of the demonic ones – he says that they – the demonic ones – are marked by atheism. In 16:4, he says that the demonic ones are marked by arrogance, conceit, anger, harshness, etc. Now, quite evidently, many atheists, including scientists, philosophers, humanists, and people who do not believe in or study Vedas, are actually marked by some of the qualities that Krishna says only the divine ones have – for example, charity, politeness, and compassion for all living beings.  
In 4:13, Krishna says that he has created four divisions (of mankind), in accordance with the three modes of material nature – the mode of goodness, the mode of passion, and the mode of ignorance – and the work related to them. In 18:41, he says that brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas, and sudras – the four divisions (of mankind) – are distinguished by the qualities generated by their own nature with respect to the material modes. In 18:42, he says that brahmanas work out of natural qualities: peacefulness, self-control, austerity, purity, tolerance, honesty, knowledge, wisdom, and religiousness. In 18:43, he says that ksatriyas work out of natural qualities: heroism, power, determination, resourcefulness, courage in battle, generosity, and leadership. Now, obviously, some men may have qualities of both brahmanas and ksatriyas – for example, Arjuna. So, which of the four divisions (of mankind) – divisions that Krishna claims to have created – such people would really belong to? Also, some people may have some of the qualities of ksatriyas – such as power, determination, resourcefulness, and leadership – but may not really have some other – such as generosity – for example, Duryodhana, who is supposed to be Arjuna’s archenemy, present in the battlefield. 
This problem arises because not everybody has qualities of one particular mode, e.g. the mode of goodness, but rather many people (or, perhaps, most of the people) have combinations of different modes. However, the idea of combination does not seem to be entertained in the Gita. (See 17:2 to 17:4, especially 17:4, and 18:7 to 18:39, especially 18:23 to 18:28.) As such, it is not clear how the four divisions of mankind – brahmanas, ksatriyas, vaisyas, and sudras – can possibly come out of the three modes of material nature. How can four varieties arise from three modes without combination? (By “Guna”, the Gita seems to mean only “the three modes of material nature”; See 2:45, 7:13-14, 13:20, & 18:19, for example.)


– its disregard for suffering,
 

Note: As expressed through 2:11, 2:14, 2:30, 2:57, etc.


its concept of Atman,
 

Note: If there were such a thing called Atman (i.e. soul), the consciousness of seeing blue colour, for instance, would make incomplete sense on its own, where, in fact, it does apparently make complete sense on its own. In other words, it seems that nothing other than the consciousness of seeing blue colour is required for its existence. And the same should be true about any other form of consciousness, including the consciousness of I’m seeing the blue colour.

 
Krishna being a sinner, and yet claiming to be holy & divine, and all that. And some of the verses are conspicuously and hilariously false & stupid – e.g. 3:14, which states that rains are produced because yajna is performed.

 
The Summary of the Satanic Gita -
 
The satanic Gita – i.e. the satanic aspect of the Gita – can be summarised in four verses: 4:8, 16:19, 16:20, & 9:33 (with the real satanic part of the verse highlighted, if required). These verses, in my opinion, constitute the essence of its satanic message.

“For deliverance of the pious and annihilation of miscreants, and for reestablishment of religion, I appear, millennium after millennium.” (4:8)
 
“I continuously put the envious and the mischievous – the lowest of all men – into the sea of material existence, into a variety of demonic lives.” (16:19)
 
“Such people, by having repeated births into the demonic sort of life, can never achieve Me. They end up into the most disgusting form of existence.” (16:20)
 
“Then what to say about righteous brahmanas, devotees, and saintly kings! Since you have come to this temporary, miserable world, serve Me lovingly.” (9:33)
 

If Krishna, thus, were at all to be taken seriously, he could not really be regarded as a good, kind, just, and noble Lord, but would rather, to a very large extent, be worthy of condemnation as evil.
 

Note: The Bhagavad-gita’s karma-yoga therefore means man’s unconditional, absolute allegiance to uncompromising, pretentious evil. 

 

16-Apr-2012
More by :  Kedar Joshi
 
Views: 3135
Article Comment Ironically, the best (sweet)medicine for your malady is the bhagwad gita itself. Its redemptive power is far superior to a psychiatric pill with hazardous side-effects. Just a whiff of chapter 2 is sufficient to allay and set to rest all doubts , fears, confusions and make men out ot mice. The nobility of thought and sentiment expressed there is enough to convince us that it has not come from the mouth of a bigot, but a sage no less than god himself. I have much to say about this chapter and particularly the seemingly cryptic yet
extremely strightforward verse but another occasion.
sundaresh
05/15/2013
Article Comment A very poor superficial reading of the text, and objections raised incidental and vague,
and the argument is bordering on the pointless. There is nothing even substantial here much less true.
But I do not beleive that god is god and man is man and the twain shall never meet
rather that the two were, are and always will be inseperably and indivisibly one.
sundaresh
05/14/2013
Article Comment The author has provided a critique of the BG.

Those who had responded had poured their anger and condemnation.

The author had quoted specific verses in the BG in support of his views/conclusions.

Those opposing this "fool", "idiot" could also provide point for point and argument for argument rebuttal quoting from the BG instead of a broad condemnation. This would be highly enlightening for commoners like me.
R.Nitya
04/26/2013
Article Comment This fool is going to hell for sure.

This dog can't even predict if he is going be alive the next moment and he is saying bad things of Krishna.

This is what is stated as low birth, whatever is written in BG is proven by statements of people like this idiot. the more the stupid people like this Kedar Joshi or monkey do things like that, whatever krishna says in BG becomes true. because he has already said low birth fools like this fellow without surrendering to Krishna will be doing this kinda of things in future. How true is that!!!

No need for us to get agitated because Yamaraj is always waiting to take him and people like him and put him thru the patala loka processes.hahaha good luck to him.

To all Joshis, please dont fellow the foot steps of your fellow joshi. if not only krishna can help you. not his devotees like yamaraj who is going to fry you dry because of your blaspheme towards his beloved lord.

good luck

KrishnaIsSupreme
04/16/2013
Article Comment Dear Kedar Joshi,

Firstly You should consider yourself lucky that Hindus in general have such high tolerance levels for imbeciles like you.You would have been in SERIOUS TROUBLE had you said anything remotely derogatory about the quran or the bible for that matter.Also you don't seem to understand that mostly every sloka or verse of our religious scriptures have an exoteric meaning as well as a esoteric (hidden) meaning.That is why we the importance of a guru is stressed in Hinduism. Simply by reading the verses and forming opinions based upon it shows the levels of your ignorance.Well its a free country and everyone has their opinions.Hope God showers some 'light' on small-minded people like you.

Take care.
Karan Rathore
04/15/2013
Article Comment Well you need to mature your thoughts. Whilst comments and critiques are not new to Geeta, but it has to have some worth to be recognized. I do not care to comment on the merit of this article (which is self evident), I would most certainly advise the poor author to develop some understanding of these matters. All the Best.
Abhishek Dabli
03/01/2013
Article Comment Yeah! the author's understanding appears skewed but what I'm seeing is critical assessment of his thoughts by people...they are thinking of him as fools
They are not going after his neck or life, that is maturity and tolerance and not having any inferiority complex
Am feeling proud of the comments here. :)
rahul bamal
02/25/2013
Article Comment dilution of the verses ................illogical arrguments.......pls refer this authar to a good phycatrist he badlly needs it.......
parth
01/30/2013
Article Comment BHAGAVAD GITA
If we delve deep into the Mahabharata, it is only a story of a war between two families. It remained a story for several centuries. During the Hindu kingdoms of Gupta, Vijayanagar and Mahratta the story aspect of the Mahabharata alone was etched in the minds of the prople. There were no philosophical discourses in temples. Devotees worshiped the idols of gods and goddesses. All Hindu scriptures remained mnemonic and there were no manuscripts, for it was considered sacreligious to produce manuscripts or to print books of the sacred scriptures. A prayer like the Gayatri mantra could be recited only by Brahmins. If a non-Brahmin had accidentally heard the recital by a Brahmin, molten led would be poured into his ears. The Asiatic Society was founded in 1784 by William Jones. While still on board of the frigate Crococlile carrying him from England to India, he prepared a memorandum detailing his plan of study. This included “the laws of the Hindus and Mahomedans; the history of the ancient world; proofs and illustrations of scripture; traditions concerning the deluge; modern politics and geography of Hindusthan; Arithmatic and Geometry and mixed sciences of Asiaticks; Medicine, Chemistry, Surgery and Anatomy of the Indians; natural products of India; poetry, rhetoric and morality of Asia; music of the Eastern nations; the best accounts of Tibet and Kashmir; trade, manufactures, agriculture and commerce of India: Mughal constitution, Marhatta constitution etc." So even before landing India, Jones was bent upon establishing the fact that ancient Indians were well versed in philosophy, mathematicas, science and medicine. But there were no manuscripts of Hindu scriptures and no original sources about Indian knowledge of science and medicine. The preferred method of Jones and other British scholars was to sit in the company of Sankrit-knowing Brahmins's and other Hindus, and to ask them to recite from memory Hindu scriptures. Scientists say that memory loss begins at the age of 40. How could the old Brahmins recite by heart century-old Scriptures? Recital by Brahmins contained many modern ideas which they have learnt from the educational institutions founded by the Missionaries and government in Calcutta. William Jones and other Orientalists syncretised Sanskrit with Classical and Biblical narratives, to establish transcultural correspondences by means of often crude conjectural etymologies. There were Brahmins such as Pundit Ramlochan,Balachandra Siromani, Rajendralala Misra, Bala Sastri of Benares, Radhakanta Sarman who were allowed to produce their own versions of Hindu scriptures. . Brahmin scholars could get easy access to Christian scriptures and western literature because of the establishment of Fort William College and Sanskrit college in Calcutta by the government. Another scholar, Francis Wilford, claimed that he had discovered the relationship among Hindu traditions, the Bible and the ancient British antiquities. Jones and other scholars, in collaboration with Brahmins, produced Sanskrit manuscripts with these fake claims. Krishna’s narration of creation in the Bhagavad Gita and the creation account in the Manu smriti produced by Jones are modified reproduction of the creation account in the Bible. Sir Charles Wilkins translated the Bhagavad Gita into English in 1785, and he had used the Sanskrit manuscript produced by Asiatic Society scholars with so many interpolations and deletions. Deception and forgeries can be detected in the manuscripts produced by them. In 1788, Wilford, claimed to have found innumerable references to ancient Egypt, its Kings and holy places in Puranas by publishing a long text of baroque complexity in Asiatic Researches. However, Wilford was forced to admit with a humiliating note in the same journal that he had been systematically duped by his head Brahmin Pandit between 1793 and 1805. Probably the modernized version of the Bhagavad Gita was interpolated during this period.



A.Yeshuratnam
01/14/2013
Article Comment Very Good Work Kedar.. the only problem with other so called philosophers is they don't see things as a scholar sees it ..
Recently I was a part of such debate , where it ended when the other person said "You need to believe in geeta to understand geeta"
It really pissed me off.. when I heard that !

Thanks a lot for posting , keep up the good work.
Vaibhav
01/14/2013
Article Comment Satanist concept only have an age of 2000 years and Gita...?
Hiran Babu
01/06/2013
Article Comment Hehehee...I cannot stop laughing at this skewed representation. I can see that knowing smile on Krishna's face too! :)
Umang
12/18/2012
Article Comment krishna also says mudhas cannot understand him.whose intelligence is stolen maya can never under bhakti.speculation is the worst way to gain knowledge said in the scriptures.Inspeculation one can only say what he thinks.logically how something which is not there in the speculating brain can come suddenly without recieving from external source .and better author should try to understand the varna asrama which is vedic way of division of society.sudra means it is not the division by birth.a person can be called sudra if he thinks only of his bodily comforts and try to enjoy even if is born in a brahmana family .asvarthama born in bharmana family is considered lower than sudra.kanaka das in updipi even though born in so called sudra division he is great devotee of krishna.when temple authorities did not allow him to enter temple krishna gave darshan to him by making the temple walls fall and tuning towards kanaka das.even now in udipi darshan of krishna in done through the same entrance.kanakadas is considered a vaishnav. birth propensities and consciuosness are not acquired just by the family he is born.when man and woman unite they have a particular consciouness a soul having same kind of consciousness enters the mothers womb through the semen of father . natural propensities and consciousness child carries are from his previous life deeds not from birth.author should understand the law of karma.krishna speaks about woman and man on the platform of soul l. author should try to come to the soul platform and understand the division between man and woman.anyone born as man in this life can be born as woman in the next life .the bodies are given by material natuere according to their desires and his karma from his past lives.most dear to krishna is shri radha who is a woman and godess of fortune.now in kali yuga scriptures say every one is a sudra.because every one is thinking selfish enjoyement but one can become bharmana by bhakti .
banu
12/12/2012
Article Comment if this reader sees satanism in the Gita,I shudder at what he would see in the scriptures of other religions.
Critical thinking and perversion are two different things and some cant see the difference
there are several layers of meaning in scriptures ,especially the Gita and it takes some BUDDHI YOGAM to understand that
three modes of material nature vary in combinations and ,manifest in all differently acording to one's knowledge of one's true self and yes the TAMASIC CANNOT EVER UNDERSTAND THE TRUTH OF ONE'S OWN EXISTENCE
the verse on women ion the context is to be understood as a mere list of all those who can be saved- and incidentally Arjuna was surrounded by woen who with all their failings painted a poor picture of womanhood indeed and thus Krishna's statement - Had Krishna being really discriminary ,then the srimad bhagawad should have lent support but it doesn't do so - infact Krishna fought for women's rights and is the first feminist - whihc one will understand if onje reads the bhagawatham
even during Krishna 's times there were dissenters like shishupal,duryodhan etc etc revelled in maligning Krishna but K never bothered because values the FREEWILL he himself conferred on all human beings
Krishna did'nt want anything for himself ,O wise interpreter- it was yes for the sake of mankind yes but never for him- he could have bee King of all that he surveyed if he had wanted
read the Mahabharata ,Srimad Bhagawatham in the oriniginal as learned people do and stop wasting your precious time n lapping up leftovers of other such deluded mudhas o have inspired your puny intellect
may Krishna give you some buddhi yogam I pray because you uKrishna's name so often - dont worry you will be saved j as Shishupal and others were all experts at NINDA STUTI
hare Krishna
Krupa Shanker
11/13/2012
Article Comment What a time waste!!!!!
Who ever he is...if he is existent.....he is cheap tactician...
I have unnecessarily wasted an hour or so on this guy...who is hollow...
I am a fool to read this...
S,Koteswara Rao
10/25/2012
Article Comment I have read many enlightening articles on Boloji. Never expected this kind of article being OKd by your editorial team. Some of us are not even aware how Hinduism is respected by the scientific community.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pueVNbuZ2A4
S.M. Bawa
08/24/2012
Article Comment The Author is on some drugs - - seriously.

Or the chap is a Communist / Congressi / Muslim or Missionary

The name seems to be fake to showcase that he is Brahmin. (Joshis are usuallly Brahmins in north india - dont know much about Joshi's in Maharashtra etc)

The idiot has translated Dharma and Adharma as religioius and irreligious. What sort of fool he is.

Dharma was never religion its always righteousness, duty. Now this fool is going to write with lack of basic understanding - responding to him seriously is not worth it.

Though I dont like ISKCON's theory of only one Krishna and undermining of other Gods in Sanatan Dharma but even they would not write such crap.

And a few words for this apology of an intellectual who is ridiculing Shrimad Bhagwad Gita of not being scientific

Go and read Bhagwad Gita again and you will find the concept of time given in terms of light starting from nano seconds to time travel. In Einstein's theory of relativity it was said that if you are travelling at speed of light the time slows down. The same is mentioned in Bhagwad Gita when it says that one day of Lord Brahma is equivalent to x number (i dont remember the exact number) of days of a normal human being

So author who is worthy of being a village idiot - should not preach us about Bhagwad Gita.

He seems to be a one book - one god thesis follower and I have observed that understanding of Sanatan Dharma is usually beyond these guys.

Readers no need to get angry with the author - his mental faculties have failed him and please be kind to such dumb animals
Vineet Bhardwaj
06/14/2012
Article Comment the author is strange, at one point writing an article about ANTI BRAHMANISM in MAHARASHTRA and here, trying to refute GITA itself..may be he has read ISKCON's version of GITA,hence those SATANIC VERSES..yes, ISKCON has completely distorted the meanings of GITA
radhakrishna
04/27/2012
Article Comment Most probably the author isn't a hindu at all, and is simply here to talk be hateful about hinduism because he knows we are tolerant and peaceful people.


AND the quotes and everything in the bhagvada geeta vary from translation to translation. I have three of them and all of them claim different things for the same quote. What we need to realise is that the translator usually puts in his views into the translator.

I am sure if a female were to translate the bhagvada geeta, it would not be derogatory to women. Some quotes would still remain so- because arjun somebody spoke them and our religious scriptures always show everybody's point of view, but it will be a LOT less than the present trash they claim.

For example, one person whose geeta translation I own has a biography that basically talks about how the "modern women" are leading to our down fall and reading the geeta will prevent women from the pitfalls of being "loose."

In fact, the influence of the author fcan be so huge that I have apparently FEMINISTIC books with me in hindi that show a picture of durga on the cover and are all for "janni" shakti and all that..
And what does the book actually have? Comments about how women dress up this way or that, how women belong in the home and are being misguided, etc.
My father bought that book for me with great expectations, hoping that it would give me an ideal woman to become. Instead, when I finally admitted that the book discriminated against women, my father was pretty sad.

This happens all the time.
kritika
04/19/2012
Article Comment Well,I dont agree with the author of this article.

The Gita is generally considered as the condensation and essence of Vedas/Puranas and upanishads. Down the ages, one can failry conclude that , just like any other Indian scripture , Gita too has unfortunately undergone interpolations, inaccurate translations etc. So we cannot blame Lord Krishna or Vyasa for this.
If you read the Upanishads, most of them seem to be above caste or gender bias.
My conclusion is , Gita is a great scripture but there are some shlokas/verses which are later additions/modifications/interpolations. These interpolations unfortunately might give one the feeling that, Gita preaches somethng negative. This is not true.
Gita is great. I encourage everyone to read Gita and understand its universal message. While reading use your common sense and take in only what is necesary , true and righteous :).
Harsha
04/17/2012
Article Comment It has to be conceded that the author has tried to fathom the Bhagavad-Gita, which cannot be said about even those who profess by it in their public discourses. Understandably, the criticism is about the version-in-vogue and some of it, involving women at al, which is attributable to interpolations, is unexceptionable. But the flaw in the criticism that followed by which the work is labeled as Satanic Gita lies in the critic giving cognizance to the very aberrations and absurdities that he himself had noticed.
While complimenting Mr. Rajender Krishan for encouraging the Gita related debate and discussion, I invite Mr. Keadr Joshi and others to some of the points of view in this site (linked below) on this issue including mine own in “Mundane distortions in the Divine discourse’ and my ‘Bhagvad - Gita: Treatise of self-help’ in contemporary idiom sans 110 interpolations.
1) Mundane distortions in the Divine discourse http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Content&sd=Articles&ArticleID=11241
2) Bhagvad-Gita: treatise of self-help http://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Content&sd=Articles&ArticleID=11237 and
3)Ambedkar and the Bhagawat
Gitahttp://www.boloji.com/index.cfm?md=Content&sd=Articles&ArticleID=11759
BS Murthy
04/17/2012
Article Comment Who is this bullshit author?
Sunita
04/16/2012
Article Comment Could it be possible that the author of this colomn be suffering from strange delusion!
Kamath
04/16/2012
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