Mar 24, 2023
Mar 24, 2023
by Rob Harle
About Prof. Dr. Sunil Sharma
Sunil Sharma is Principal at Bharat College – affiliated to University of Mumbai, Mumbai India. He is a bilingual critic, poet, literary interviewer, editor, translator, essayist and fiction writer. Some of his short stories and poems have already appeared, among others, in prestigious journals like: Hudson View (South Africa), Munyori, The Plebian Rag and the Bicycle Review (all three USA e-zines), Asia Writes; New Woman (Mumbai); Creative Saplings, Brown Critique, Muse India, Thanali and Kritya (Indian e-zines); the Seva Bharati Journal of English Studies (West Bengal), Indian Literature (of Sahitya Akademy, New Delhi), Labyrinth (Gwalior), Poets International (Bangalore), Contemporary Vibes (Chandigarh), Indian Journal of Post-colonial Literatures (Kerala), Prosopisia (Ajmer), and Seven Sisters, a daily from Assam. Some of his poems and shorts have been anthologized in national and international collections, published from India, Canada and USA. Besides that, he is a freelance journalist and blogger. His areas of strength are Marxism, Literary Theory and Cultural Studies.
His book on the Philosophy of the Novel – a Marxist Critique has generated a good critical response. His debut novel – The Minotaur – dealing with dominant ideologies and socio-political realities of the 20th century-- was published from Jaipur (India) in 2009. The novel was released in South Africa in December, 2009.
His poems are also featured prominently on Boloji.com and Destiny Poets. UK. On a dozen poetry on-line groups, some of these poems can be seen. Anthologies from Canada and USA have included select poems by him.
As a freelance, he has more than 1,000 news articles published in DK Plus, Times of India, Mumbai. His six short stories and the novel Minotaur are prescribed currently for the undergraduate classes under the Post-colonial Studies at the Clayton University, Morrow, Georgia, USA. He has also edited, along with Dr Jaydeep Sarangi, an anthology of shorts, The Editors’ Choice: Contemporary Short Stories in Indian English, published by Gnosis Publications, New Delhi, 2010.
His latest publications include: Delightful Dickens, an anthology, Yking Books, Jaipur and Acerbic Anthology, Createspace, USA. He is one of the editors for the NFJ (New Fiction Journal), an international journal devoted to the short stories. A collection of poems: Poetry amid the Golden Barrel Cacti was released in November-2011 from AuthorsPress, Delhi. He serves on many advisory boards of quality international literary and online journals. Sunil was declared as the ICOP (International Community of Poets) Poet of the Year - 2012 by the leading UK-based The Destiny Poets. He can be contacted on +91-9819997123 or through email at: email@example.com
Q Hi Sunil thanks for talking. This interview will have a worldwide audience, not only India, so could we start by you telling us a little about your childhood, schooling and tertiary education?
—Thanks Rob for the opportunity. My parents were both teachers. It was a small house with big ideas. Liberal, tolerant and full of love, poetry and philosophy. My father was a writer who could not pursue his writing due to work pressures and family commitments but he remained a poet by heart; mother was a teacher of drawing and painting and full of joie-de-vivre. It was a simple, honest and caring household where values and refined tastes were promoted. I was exposed to Schopenhauer and Goethe along with Kalidasa by my father and Picasso by my mother. Being youngest of three children, I came to monopolize them after my elder brother and eldest sister left for other shores.
His early death left a deep trauma. I was hardly 20 and a pale-faced thin man. I could never overcome that emotional loss. Ma was and is a great support.
Schooling and college education was done in a developing city near Delhi that later on grew into a boom city. Luckily, at PG level, I got some very dedicated and erudite teachers who molded my thinking in a different direction—Marxism. It was the age of exciting 70-89s in India and most universities were red. That liberal-humanism and commitment for the downtrodden still forms my inner vision and overall outlook on life and informs my writing.
Q Do you prefer writing poetry or fiction stories?
— Both. Poetry happens faster, is quicker, takes one sitting; fiction is slower, more demanding and takes many sittings, even months to complete. Images are fast in poetry; in fiction, they take longer to mature. So, for me, fiction is very challenging and complex. But I prefer both the forms, depending on the nature of ideas to be communicated aesthetically to your audience.
Q Your poetry often juxtaposes observations of wealth with those of hardship and poverty. How much influence does living in Mumbai with its stark contrasts influence your writing?
— For me, poetry is about giving voice to the mute. It is a celebration of life of those denied a share in the social development by design or apathy of the ruling elites for decades. Every Indian city is a paradox of wealth and poverty. Our job as a writer is to articulate artistically the social condition of the deprived and the marginalized. Victor Hugo did that earlier in France. Dickens did that in industrial England and Turgenev did that in Tsarist Russia.
Q If you had to mention just a couple of writers only who had a major influence on your own writing, who would those, be?
— Dickens, Tolstoy, Gorky, Chekov, Dostoevsky, Flaubert, Sartre, Camus, Mann, Marquez and Kafka. In India, it is Prem Chand.
Q Indian literary scholars and academics such as you have a deep knowledge of all the great British writers such as Keats, Eliot, Shakespeare, Yeats, Dickens and Shelley. I don't hear much about the French masters such as Baudelaire or Rimbaud. How much do you attribute this to British colonialism in India?
— It was their project to justify and glorify their civilization and culture. Lord Macaulay famously wanted us to be Anglicized servants of the Raj, hating our heritage and colonial project did that successfully. Post-independent, shamefully, we are as a nation still their servile clones only, still hating our 5,000-year-old ancient civilization and culture and our basic pantheism. We are neither here nor there people. We have lost our soul and become poor caricatures: Neither pure white nor black or brown. A harlequin figure drifting, ridiculed. We are inauthentic beings now living the global nightmare of globalization that even otherwise kills any residue or trace of originality and subjectivity and turns you into a gross standardized consumer of global brands only.
Q I've noticed what I can only describe as a “gentle tone” in much contemporary Indian poetry, much more so than in say American or Australian poetry. I find this especially so in your poetry. Would you care to comment about this?
— Poet invariably cares for the muted and the voiceless people and becomes a mother and a mother’s touch is always very gentle.
Q In a recent review of the anthology Poetry Connections: Poems From Australia & India Rushdie was quoted, “A poet's work … to name the unnamable, to point at frauds, to take sides, start argument, shape the world and stop it from going to sleep.” Do you agree with Rushdie's statement?
— There are many writers embedded in the system who resist the narrative of the tyranny. Rushdie has also done that but from a distance. Writers are subversives, at least serious writers. Solzhenitsyn did that more courageously in Russia under a totalitarian system. Earlier Lorca did that in Spain. Hemingway did that in Nazi Paris. Brecht did that in Germany. Resistance and underground literature always question the status quo and official lies. Some radical writers, embedded in the system, take up the oppositional role most seriously and heroically. Take the example of the martyred Safdar Hashmi, a theatre activist and communist, who was brutally assaulted near Delhi, on a public street on January 1, 1989, by the political thugs. This bright post-graduate in English literature from Delhi University, a barely 34-year-old fire-breathing Marxist-poet and director of the street play, Halla Bole (Attack), died next day, on January 2. His legacy still inspires youth. Such commitment is rare these days. Most of the writers prefer to criticism establishment from a safe distance. Another inspiring poet from India is Gaddar, a Telegu balladeer who worked with the poor, the dalits and the landless and roamed the forests for his belief system. Compared with such artistes, we are nothing but self-serving writers promoting our own personal agenda and flirting with the West for dollars, prizes, canonization and, if possible, a permanent residency as well. Most of such writing is not genuine.
In the West, especially in France and Italy of the last century, writers like Sartre, Camus and philosophers like Gramsci were very honest. Although Sartre underwent many transformations in his later career, he — like the rest of the French intellectual Left — remained largely liberal-humanist. The fashionable Absurd and pessimism came later and it largely sprang up from their dis-engagement with the public and public causes that more radicals earlier had championed. Regis Debray later on became a minister in the Mitterrand government in 1981-France! So, the point is, the age of radicalization gave way to finally age of contemplation; there was a widening gap between theory and praxis, and, writers retreated into safe havens, declaring from there their intention to change the world. Somehow, such calls — by anyone small or big — fail to enthuse members of mass society and arts suffer from a serious credibility-crisis. Naturally, isolated members who are writers of isolated communities talk of a fractured world where change is not possible.
Revolutionary bourgeois turns pessimistic and then eventually regressive and any art produced in such a closed space has very limited appeal. At best, it becomes a private lament only.
In USA, they talk of not better world but of parallel worlds — of pure fantasy or Sci-fi or Gothic horror or alien strikes or subjugation of women sexually and politically. Dystopia is promoted in big way through TV, Hollywood and popular culture and fiction.
The dis-connect is complete!
In their comparison, Arthur Miller still sounds so refreshingly radical and challenging! Since this artistic view — of dystopia — suits the vested interests, such artistic works are promoted enthusiastically by the big money.
Q Poets can now publish their work on the Internet (websites, blogs, online journals and so on). Do you think this ease of publication, often without peer or editorial review, encourages a lowering in the quality of poetry?
— It is an age of further democratization. With the arrival of social media and FB, a large chunk of middle-class netizens have discovered the writer in them and FB has proved to be a liberating social site.
Lowering of quality is a subjective perception or measurement: Many Indian editors would die to publish Rob Harle from Australia. Few online editors from Australia or England might reject him most gleefully. It is purely your own perception. For me, if your poetry flows from heart, it is a quality piece. These standards are not universal or stable. Anyway, if world slowly turns lyrical, it is better than a place full of ethnic hatreds and strife and racial slurs and hate crimes!
Q Thinking about this above internet-communication phenomenon, do you think some good poets/writers who would not have been heard twenty years ago at least now can have an audience?
— Sure. It is very democratic and liberating. We both discovered each other online only. With print dying and literary space shrinking, cyber- world is the best place for literary tête-à-tête across differing time zones and dividing spaces. Many voices have been empowered by this powerful and instant media. Writers are getting visible and heard regularly. It is truly revolutionary.
Q Training may be beneficial to honing a poet's skills but it is my belief that without passion (or deep serious commitment) no amount of training will produce a really good poet, do you agree with this?
— Good actors are born, not made. Similarly, good poets become good on the basis of their felt immediacies, sincerity of conviction, red-hot passion and a life-long apprenticeship to masters. Writing courses might hone up your skills and help in networking but cannot produce talent for feeling words and textures. It is always in born only. If MBA courses are good, why their faculties do not become successful entrepreneurs? Such courses have got limitations. For a good writer, literary imagination and a love for words are important.
Q I think anthologies are a wonderful way to bring poets to the reader’s attention, ones which they may not be familiar with. You are represented in numerous anthologies, The Dance of the Peacock; Poetic Connections: Poems >From Australia & India; Indo-Australian Anthology of Contemporary Poetry being the most recent ones. Would you agree with this statement?
— Sure. It is a literary service where poet-editors try to highlight others of their tribe for a world looking for diversity in content. It is a selfless service against many odds and must be publicly appreciated—promoting others.
Q Basho said, "A poet doesn't make a poem, something in him naturally becomes a poem." Do you think is correct?
— In a recent chat with you, I have said the same thing: A writer is a work in progress. A writer becomes a text; a text becomes a writer. Both are twins and inseparable. Your work is your extension. Hegel has said that work actualizes you. An artist gets realized in their works.
Q It is my personal belief that being authentic to oneself, in an Existential sense is far more important than winning say a Pulitzer Prize. “Better to have no public, than to have no self.” Would you care to discuss this somewhat, anti-literary establishment view?
— For me being authentic is more crucial in an age that deliberately denies originality and promotes pastiche. Winning awards has its own rules. Both of us do not have that kind of temperament — self-promotion and narcissism are alien virtues for us as writers. An authentic writer does not belong to lobbies, does not go to Lit Fests, does not get the reviews done and tom-tom them on FB. Serious writing is reserved and solo. It is not for mass market. It is anti-establishment.
If Nobel is so objective, why it was not given to Tolstoy and Gandhi?
Why communist bashing or India bashing gets all these western awards?
So there is a politics behind that. We are too small for them, the marginalized solo writers. Our delight comes from composing a song on a setting sun. We do not covet awards. Ours is a counter-culture, the underground. Happy to inhabit those dark regions there only.
Q Charles Simic, one of my favorite poets said, “Like our ancient ancestors who inhabited an animistic universe, the poet claims the interconnectedness and sentience of all things. This is what haunts: a world where magic is possible, where chance reigns, where metaphors have their supreme logic, where imagination is free and truthful.” Would you care to comment on this powerful insight of Simic's?
—You introduced me to this wonderful writer who talks of the whole universe. He is not a resident of a fractured world. Simic is a seer among poets who can see a pattern in inanimate objects, stones, etc. Basho does that in an earlier age. Dreamtime or any other mythic imagination feels the same way. Our epics do that only Simic rises above the fractured realities and embraces a holistic, almost epic vision. He must be emulated by others.
Q Poetry and to a slightly lesser extent short stories seem to be experiencing a resurgence in this era of high speed living, hedonism, consumerism and excessive input of images and media-driven messages. Why do you think this might be the case?
— Poetic and fictional images are not mass-driven, ad-agency produced sterile images seen and forgotten in the clutter of prime time TV. They are singular fresh voices articulating individual encounters with a standardized world controlled by mass media for profits. These images are fresh breath of air and revive tired minds suffering from surfeit.
A tiny poem creating a verbal image is like a wild-flower seen from a speeding car on a highway; it is like the laughter of a baby in a dim room of an ageing, grim house and very invigorating in nature.
It is a smile of a pretty woman remembered on a sick-bed in a hospital.
It is spiritual, gentle, life-affirming — non-commercial, anti-market poetry flowing from a full heart on lonely nights, oozing with passion of the young in love.
It is, finally, a gift of God — words or black marks arranged vertically or horizontally, on a white paper that you realize when reading them again as readers. It is a communion of two identical souls thinking of beauty and sharing same aesthetic values.
It is sheer bliss!
Q Contrary to this apparent resurgence it seems there are not many young poets (under 20 years) writing. As an educator do you find this the situation in India? If I am correct do you think it is because academic programs are now being tailored more and more to “buck making” instantly after graduation, not as in the past where knowledge and cultural improvement was seen as a desirable end in itself?
— Education is more about developing skills for emerging markets. It is about big bucks. Poetry is doomed. Only those with stable incomes indulge; others fighting for survival do not have any time left. It is sad but true. Poets are in minority. Redeeming thing is that many women are finding their inner voice through online poetry groups. It is a good omen.
Q One final question, When can we look forward to your next personal volume of poetry or fiction?
— In next few months, other things being equal.
Q Sunil thank you so much for your time and could you leave us with one of your recent poems?
— Pleasure is totally mine. Thanks for choosing an obscure writer from India for this interesting conversation. I feel immensely benefited by some of your own insights as a writer.
There were verdant hills and trees
Where healthy kids played once,
A river flowed nearby,
They ate mangoes and
Chased rabbits and hunted
Birds in the mini forest
During long vacations,
The kids swam in the river,
Slept under the trees on
Hot summer afternoons,
And returned to their village
Refreshed in the evenings;
There is no village,
No hills or trees,
A dark river flows,
Mere muddy strip,
Surrounded by gleaming
And lot of marble-concrete,
And an irreparable loss—
A lost childhood and soothing green.
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|Sir kudos for this brilliant session. I read many of your c poems and stories here and there on the web. Really I am moved by your insight and frankness as to your role as a writer. An idiot or a coward can praise the powerful. But one needs immense courage to speak truth to power. And your word'serious writers are subversive' rings in my ears with a resonance. You are the voice of the powerless, voiceless, meek and marginals. Your writings reflect both worldly and metaphysical concerns.|
|A wonderful and thought provoking interview. Kudos to both Rob and Sunil Sharma sir. Sunil sir is always an inspiration to youngsters like me through his published works as well as through his communication. I personally would like to congratulate him to have edited The book Anthology of Contemporary Poetry. Best wishes to him.|
|A most wonderful interview! Rob Harle has managed to bring out the best of Prof. Sharma's candid thoughts, and touched upon various aspects of contemporary Indian poetry and society. Prof Sharma is refreshingly honest, but no less is expected from a poet of his calibre. Very good, and best regards.|
|What an interview! mesmerized....Reading this excellent interview I become wonderstruck.First of all,I would like to thank Rob Sir for his sharp-witted and brilliant questions.You are a great artist Sir.|
This is why this interview becomes an engaging one.
Sunil Sharma Sir! Are you listening?If I were the chairman of Indian English Literary world,I would not only prescribe or promote this interview to all the writers/poets,but also I would make this interview compulsory to each and every creative writer,before they had started writing a single line in English.So many unknown facts about your life which were shrouded in mystery to the common readers have been unveiled in this interview.And your answers are less like answers or replies to Rob Sir's questions and more and more like Baconian Quotations.I am sure this interview will help the researchers a lot. You are the Himalaya to a piece of rock like me.My respect and love to both of you..Keep Writing...
|"For me, poetry is about giving voice to the mute." This line stands out amid so many brilliant lines. Professor Sharma's voice is a call itself to all poets to use their gifts to help create a better world, a world of compassion for those who have been abandoned.|
What a brilliant interview. And what a remarkable human being is Professor Sharma. His range of understanding and thought is extraordinary! His is a voice to rally around.
|Amazing interview, Sunil. Much thanks to you and Rob. I got to know more about you. Great effort.|
|Thoroughly enjoyed reading this interview.|
|Dr Sunil Sharma is a word artist and a true gentleman as well. This lively interaction between Dr Sharma and Rob Harle is truly inspirational and touches upon passion, ethics, creativity and nuances of life. Poetry is always to me as 'Above and Beyond'. Life is about taking a view and backing yourself which Dr Sharma has followed. This great narrator is a model for all who strive to achieve their personal best and to scale heights.|
|Sunil Sharma, no doubt a brilliant poet of India. I always enjoy his poems. He has a gift for projecting true poetic sensibilities through his poems. It seems I can always identify experiences, feelings and sensibilities with his poems and I think this should be the criteria to judge a good poet. But this wonderful interview explores his poetic sensibilities from different angles. I would give credit to Rob Harle more who could search such questions which are hidden in the mind of Indian readers from a long time back. Why there is scarcity of under twenty poets in India or what is the adverse role of publishing poems in internet? These are some questions which, I think very difficult to handle.|
Thanks Rajender Krishanji for placing such a bright interview.
|Wonderful interview Sir|
|Dr Sunil Sharma's work is a reflection of his formative years spent with his academic parents. His horizons span beyond Mumbai city into the remotest regions of the globe......through his love of reading and passion for acquiring knowledge. He is a prolific writer whose work mirrors the |
society he lives in. Congratulations in giving such a profound and candid interview. His utter humility
facinates and intrigues me.
|Wonderful Interview . I am very much impressed by the philosophical thoughts and ideas shared by Dr Sunil Sharma Sir..Also inspired by Dr Sunil Sharma sir's convictions.... Serious writing is not for mass market Its solo and reserved .... Delight comes from composing a song on setting sun . Moved by the words of appreciation for the women poets and writers which truely inspires women to write more. Thanks for sharing this interview as I got to know more about Dr Sunill Sharma sir's work . Truely inspiring poet and writer. Best wishes to Rob Harle and Dr Sunil Sharma. Regards.|
|Impressive, Sunil Sharma!|
Every bit of the conversation is nice and instructive and pleasant.
One of those many is this: "For me, poetry is about giving voice to the mute. It is a celebration of life of those denied a share in the social development by design or apathy of the ruling elites for decades...".
If I start quoting what I like, I would end up almost reproducing the entire conversation here.
|Interesting and thought provoking indeed!|
|Dr. Sunil Sharma , a dedicated academician. You are the source of my inspiration.|
|Amazing..They say that upbringing defines your personality.It is a lethal combination of teacher parents which has moulded Sunil Ji in such a literary personality.Rest is the everlasting process of honing,developing and the result is such a huge galaxy of literary work.My sincerest regards and best wishes on this creative journey of Sunil Sharma Ji.|
|Wonderful interview Rob.. you are a great painter and writer. But you know the best how to bring out the inner secrets from a creative soul. Kudos for your interview with Dr. Sunil Sharma who keeps a low profile in spite of his great poetic talent and academic height of scholarship. Love to read your interview about the silent man who never spoke about himself. just too good a write up|